Comments on: Another week and another red card makes for a grumpy supporter http://www.victoryinmelbourne.com/2008/09/another-week-and-another-red-card-makes-for-a-grumpy-supporter/ View and News on Melbourne Victory and Football Fri, 18 May 2012 16:03:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: john http://www.victoryinmelbourne.com/2008/09/another-week-and-another-red-card-makes-for-a-grumpy-supporter/#comment-442 john Wed, 01 Oct 2008 23:01:26 +0000 http://www.victoryinmelbourne.com/?p=141#comment-442 Yes Ed, if there was a conspiracy the Roar would win at home. The Fox guys are pulling their hair out (if they have any), it is a hugh plus to their audience if the Roar win at home - it keeps people up here interesting in watching the game on TV. Yes Ed, if there was a conspiracy the Roar would win at home. The Fox guys are pulling their hair out (if they have any), it is a hugh plus to their audience if the Roar win at home - it keeps people up here interesting in watching the game on TV.

]]> By: Ed http://www.victoryinmelbourne.com/2008/09/another-week-and-another-red-card-makes-for-a-grumpy-supporter/#comment-441 Ed Wed, 01 Oct 2008 12:39:29 +0000 http://www.victoryinmelbourne.com/?p=141#comment-441 Yes I can remember fumming about Ref decisions at Suncorp and feeling like there must be some kind of conspiracy against QLD (off the top of my head I think QLD were only awarded one penalty in the first 2 seasons despite spending more time in the box than any other team). I think the problem is more a lack of Refs experienced at this level rather than conspiracy. The sallary cap is enough of a tool to ensure no one team becomes too dominant, no conspiracy is required. The A-League is a step up for officials as well as players. The players are faster, stronger, crafter, more famous and generally harder to handle. The crowds are bigger, more demanding and TV coverage more intense than ever before. At the moment the officials dont seem to be keeping up, players are being sent off far too often, yet the league is very physical, at times brutal and skillful players are not being protected. I recon Tiatto and Muscat have both been guilty of bringing the game into disrepute on numerous occasions and I would like to see the kind of play that left Vargas on the ground bannished from the A-League. Yes I can remember fumming about Ref decisions at Suncorp and feeling like there must be some kind of conspiracy against QLD (off the top of my head I think QLD were only awarded one penalty in the first 2 seasons despite spending more time in the box than any other team).

I think the problem is more a lack of Refs experienced at this level rather than conspiracy. The sallary cap is enough of a tool to ensure no one team becomes too dominant, no conspiracy is required.

The A-League is a step up for officials as well as players. The players are faster, stronger, crafter, more famous and generally harder to handle. The crowds are bigger, more demanding and TV coverage more intense than ever before.

At the moment the officials dont seem to be keeping up, players are being sent off far too often, yet the league is very physical, at times brutal and skillful players are not being protected.

I recon Tiatto and Muscat have both been guilty of bringing the game into disrepute on numerous occasions and I would like to see the kind of play that left Vargas on the ground bannished from the A-League.

]]> By: john http://www.victoryinmelbourne.com/2008/09/another-week-and-another-red-card-makes-for-a-grumpy-supporter/#comment-440 john Wed, 01 Oct 2008 10:07:07 +0000 http://www.victoryinmelbourne.com/?p=141#comment-440 Pippinu, I hear your pain. Some Refs aren't up to the job. But what are the choices? It is a tough job. The FFA made a rod for its own back starting this star chamber thing that allows decisions to be reviewed after the match - you will recall the first game last season with a decision against Tiatto. The Roar has lost more fans than Melbourne has now because of its home team record. And many fans think that it is a conspiracy against them. Unfortunately, or fortunately it is the game. Pippinu, I hear your pain.

Some Refs aren’t up to the job. But what are the choices? It is a tough job.

The FFA made a rod for its own back starting this star chamber thing that allows decisions to be reviewed after the match - you will recall the first game last season with a decision against Tiatto. The Roar has lost more fans than Melbourne has now because of its home team record. And many fans think that it is a conspiracy against them. Unfortunately, or fortunately it is the game.

]]> By: pippinu http://www.victoryinmelbourne.com/2008/09/another-week-and-another-red-card-makes-for-a-grumpy-supporter/#comment-437 pippinu Wed, 01 Oct 2008 01:21:00 +0000 http://www.victoryinmelbourne.com/?p=141#comment-437 I am so annoyed at what has happened to Melbourne and the manner in which Tiatto was exonerated, that I have decided to not have anything to do with the A-League forthwith. I will not renew my membership next season. I have written a damning article in my blog, and will continue to work towards exposing the A-League as a rigged competition. I am so annoyed at what has happened to Melbourne and the manner in which Tiatto was exonerated, that I have decided to not have anything to do with the A-League forthwith. I will not renew my membership next season.

I have written a damning article in my blog, and will continue to work towards exposing the A-League as a rigged competition.

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]]> By: Neil Zimmerman http://www.victoryinmelbourne.com/2008/09/another-week-and-another-red-card-makes-for-a-grumpy-supporter/#comment-435 Neil Zimmerman Tue, 30 Sep 2008 10:18:26 +0000 http://www.victoryinmelbourne.com/?p=141#comment-435 Speaking of physicality, in my opinion the Victory are not that much of a physical side. It just has that reputation, partly due to the influence of Muscat. In the last three weeks I have noticed Adelaide, Central Coast and Queensland playing the man a lot more than the ball and not being punished for it all. I agree with you Pippinu on the Tiatto incident - if nothing is done (and we have heard nothing at this stage) it certainly smack of double standards especially if two players have already been done for spitting which in my opinion is minor offence when compare to a forearm to the neck. Speaking of physicality, in my opinion the Victory are not that much of a physical side. It just has that reputation, partly due to the influence of Muscat. In the last three weeks I have noticed Adelaide, Central Coast and Queensland playing the man a lot more than the ball and not being punished for it all.

I agree with you Pippinu on the Tiatto incident - if nothing is done (and we have heard nothing at this stage) it certainly smack of double standards especially if two players have already been done for spitting which in my opinion is minor offence when compare to a forearm to the neck.

]]> By: pippinu http://www.victoryinmelbourne.com/2008/09/another-week-and-another-red-card-makes-for-a-grumpy-supporter/#comment-434 pippinu Tue, 30 Sep 2008 06:01:43 +0000 http://www.victoryinmelbourne.com/?p=141#comment-434 Mike that's spot on - the Roar were far more physical - this is why I am so infuriated about how the game panned out - and how the last three weeks have turned out - I personally believe that some form of institutionalised bias has entered the game. The Tiatto incident, and what happens post-match (if anything), will tell all. Mike
that’s spot on - the Roar were far more physical - this is why I am so infuriated about how the game panned out - and how the last three weeks have turned out - I personally believe that some form of institutionalised bias has entered the game.

The Tiatto incident, and what happens post-match (if anything), will tell all.

]]> By: Mike http://www.victoryinmelbourne.com/2008/09/another-week-and-another-red-card-makes-for-a-grumpy-supporter/#comment-433 Mike Tue, 30 Sep 2008 05:50:46 +0000 http://www.victoryinmelbourne.com/?p=141#comment-433 It certainly is frustrating as a supporter to see players being sent off so frequently. Particularly considering that all three reds could've gone either way -- especially with Fabiano and the lack of any real evidence. The funny thing is, Queensland were by far the more physical team on Sunday. Double standards indeed. It certainly is frustrating as a supporter to see players being sent off so frequently. Particularly considering that all three reds could’ve gone either way — especially with Fabiano and the lack of any real evidence.

The funny thing is, Queensland were by far the more physical team on Sunday. Double standards indeed.

]]> By: pippinu http://www.victoryinmelbourne.com/2008/09/another-week-and-another-red-card-makes-for-a-grumpy-supporter/#comment-432 pippinu Tue, 30 Sep 2008 04:23:35 +0000 http://www.victoryinmelbourne.com/?p=141#comment-432 Let's not beat around the bush here - a clear case of double standards (or worse) has emerged the last few weeks and it simply does not stand up to scrutiny in the context of what happens in the league week to week. I found the officiating on Sunday an absolute disgrace and it is as clear a case of bias as I have ever encountered. I don't care about the result of the game - I do care about the standard of officiating at the moment. As far as I am concerned, the FFA can only regain some credibility if it cites Tiatto and he ends up with the same penalty Fred copped two seasons ago. An utter disgrace, makes a mockery of the whole comp. Let’s not beat around the bush here - a clear case of double standards (or worse) has emerged the last few weeks and it simply does not stand up to scrutiny in the context of what happens in the league week to week.

I found the officiating on Sunday an absolute disgrace and it is as clear a case of bias as I have ever encountered.

I don’t care about the result of the game - I do care about the standard of officiating at the moment.

As far as I am concerned, the FFA can only regain some credibility if it cites Tiatto and he ends up with the same penalty Fred copped two seasons ago.

An utter disgrace, makes a mockery of the whole comp.

]]> By: Ed http://www.victoryinmelbourne.com/2008/09/another-week-and-another-red-card-makes-for-a-grumpy-supporter/#comment-431 Ed Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:59:48 +0000 http://www.victoryinmelbourne.com/?p=141#comment-431 Think John is right about Moore - cant really see him being selected, its more of a PR excercise, he had a terrible trot with injuries and suspension early in the season and his value as a marque was proabley in question - one clever little press release later and he is a hero again (and he has been very good last couple of games - perhaps it was even aconfidence boost to him). Also agree that Charlie could have taken a touch with both those volleys!! Neil, thats is a very good point you make, Roar are not the only team who struggle to win at home and it must hurt the league, fans hate to see thier team go dwon at home. Think John is right about Moore - cant really see him being selected, its more of a PR excercise, he had a terrible trot with injuries and suspension early in the season and his value as a marque was proabley in question - one clever little press release later and he is a hero again (and he has been very good last couple of games - perhaps it was even aconfidence boost to him).

Also agree that Charlie could have taken a touch with both those volleys!!

Neil, thats is a very good point you make, Roar are not the only team who struggle to win at home and it must hurt the league, fans hate to see thier team go dwon at home.

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