Posts Tagged ‘surat sukha’

ViM vs Craig Foster

Thursday, February 10th, 2011

In my previous post I made the comment as to whether Craig Foster had actually seen Sukha play before he joined the Victory. And to his credit, Foster did get around to responding to my comment on Twitter and we had brief conversation as to the merit of his assertions. For those who don’t follow me or Craig Foster on Twitter I have included it here for the record.

Victory In Melbourne: So @ how many times did you see Surat Sukha play before he joined the Victory?

Craig Foster: Comment re Sukha was saw him when he arrived, saw no such tackles, no need to see him before. Players change according to team culture

ViM: @ So therefore based on 1 bad tackle in 2 seasons you make the assumption that ’s so called ‘culture of violence’ has influenced the way now plays. Talk about drawing a long bow to suit your own means

CF: @ Any player/particularly those coming from abroad, are influenced by team/club culture. Happens to Aussies in Uk all the time

ViM: @ Agree. But your example is a poor one. For the record in 34 games has committed 34 fouls and received 3 yellow cards. Those are hardly the stats of a player that has become overly aggressive due to the environment he plays in

CF: @ Fair point, however the number of cards given in HAL is not a great indicator as many are missed, which is issue for league. My point, though, is not that Sukha is a dirty player, but to question whether he would have made the same tackle before

ViM: @ that is something we will never know & therefore it is wrong to assume what was a clumsy & not a violent tackle is the fault of a ‘culture’ you assume to exist at

Whilst I will readily admit that I am one of Craig Foster’s harshest critics it was good to see him respond to some of my ascerbic comments.

Lynching and the culture of violence

Tuesday, February 1st, 2011

The World Game Lynch Mob

Enough is enough. Ever since Kevin Muscat decided it was appropriate to perpetrate that tackle on Adrian Zahra the Australian football media has gone into a self-perpetuating frenzy reminiscent of a school of sharks that have just happened upon a large school of baitfish. Not only has Muscat come under fire but also coach Ernie Merrick and the club itself. Leading the charge has been the self-appointed guardian of football in this country, SBS’ The World Game.

Let me get one thing clear, I am not condoning Muscat’s actions and in fact I have labelled the tackle as one of the worst I have ever seen. In my latest blog for Australian FourFourTwo I have even gone as far as to say that Muscat’s time is well and truly up. Apart from those who resorted to cheap insults most of the comments were fairly positive. However, it seems that the Sydney-based The World Game machine has gone into overdrive in its attempt to sink the boot into anyone involved with Melbourne Victory. They are the self-appointed leaders of the lynch mob.

One particular comment that particularly got me riled was Francis Awaritefe’s assertion that the Victory has an inherent “culture of violence”, a phrase he claims to have coined after Muscat was sent off against Adelaide just over two weeks ago and which he repeated on The World Game on Monday night. When asked to expand on this he cites Surat Sukha’s unfortunate tackle on Matthew Leckie earlier this year. To compare Sukha’s tackle to Muscat’s tackle is to use an old cliché like comparing apples with oranges. Sure they were both bad tackles that injured players but should never ever been compared. Two tackles does not make for a “culture of violence”.

Jumping on the “culture of violence” bandwagon has been Craig Foster who in the Sydney Morning Herald claims that there there was a ”history at the club of violent acts”, adding that Melbourne’s culture fostered on-field intimidation. Again using the Leckie tackle as an example he claims that:

”The Matthew Leckie incident earlier in the season by Surat Sukha is an example. When he [Sukha] came here [from Thailand], he didn’t do those tackles. He learned those at the club”

That is a massive assumption by Foster based on who know what evidence. I asked SBS’ chief football analyst via Twitter as to whether he had actually seen Sukha play before he joined the Victory. At the stage of writing this I am yet to receive a response.

What both Awaritefe and Foster fail to mention is the constant kickings that the likes of Hernandez, Thompson, Kruse and Angulo receive on a weekly basis. I heard no outrage last season when Kruse was repeatedly targeted by opposition players. If you don’t remember them, let me list them for you.

  • King hit behind play by Charlie Miller against the Brisbane Roar. Never mind the constant fouling he received during that game.
  • Received a dislocated shoulder after being hit behind play by Gold Coast United’s Steve Pantelidis.
  • Hacked down by Sydney FC’s Terry McFlynn in the final match of the season, severely damaging ankle ligaments.

Also a big fan of the Melbourne Victory bashing bandwagon is Jesse Fink who likes nothing more than trying to sink the boot into the Victory and Kevin Muscat. So much so that he felt the need to write four opinion pieces (yes four) on the incident, two of which were pretty much the same thing. Instead of giving you the links I’m going to hit you with some memorable quotes from the Finkster, who as you can see is not afraid of the hyperbole.

“A piffling eight weeks. Eight weeks for nearly ending a young player’s career and threatening his lifetime earnings because the Melbourne Victory skipper crossed the line of what is right and decent and tried his luck on the dark side.”

“What’s more breathtaking than the century of combined yellows and reds he’s collected is that it could have been five times more had officials had more bottle to deal with him, as I wrote last January.”

For the record, Muscat has received 33 yellow cards and five red cards in the six seasons he has played in the A-League.

“With his basic football knowledge and limited football smarts Merrick was never going to win titles playing fluid, Spanish-style passing combination football but he sure as hell had a chance to win a few games and keep his job if he had a man on the field, Muscat, who could not just monster opposition players but also school younger teammates in the no-frills English Championship way.”

There’s this guy called Hernandez, who plays with this other guy called Thompson, who is often seen in the company of the likes of Dugandzic, Angulo and Kruse.

“Whether it’s Muscat and his litany of indiscretions, Grant Brebner flying in with Roy Keane-style studs-up tackles or Adrian Leijer throwing his weight around like he’s Dolph Lundgren, Victory’s approach is clearly predicated on physical intimidation and harassment.”

Yes Melbourne do a physical brand of football but it also one based on the skill of the likes of Hernandez, Fred, Angulo, Thompson, etc. Without the input of those highly skilled players I would hardly assume that Melbourne would have won those two championship/premiership doubles and come within inches of a third. It’s time for The World Game to take off its Sydney-based orange-tinted glasses and take a balanced look at the Melbourne Victory.

Unbalanced comment

Wednesday, November 3rd, 2010

SOCCER Hyundai A-League 2010: 30 October - Rd 12 - Melbourne Victory def Adelaide United 2-1

It’s not often I get on my soapbox, but with all the kerfuffle surrounding Friday night’s clash against Adelaide United and more specifically “that” tackle by Surat Sukha. Whilst I could have used my usual blog for Australian FourFourTwo to cover this issue I felt that it had it already been done to death and thus saw no need to go over old ground. But a tweet today from SBS analyst, Craig Foster really got under my skin. Foster who has recently started using his twitter account, wrote:

Match review panel v sukha - red card offence. Give automatic 1 match ban. No place for late/high tackle in game

My response for which I received no reply at this stage:

@ Why no comment on Paul Reid’s equally poor tackle on Billy Celeski? Bias because is next big thing!

And that is my main beef with this issue. Whilst I will admit that Sukha’s tackle was late and clumsy and may have been worth a red card at worst and at least a yellow card the outrage that it has generated seems a little over the top. We all know Matthew Leckie is a great talent and his absence from the A-League will be sorely missed but has the reaction been a little superfluous because many consider Leckie to be Australian football’s next big things.

As a number fans have pointed out (and not just Melbourne Victory fans) Paul Reid’s cynical challenge on Billy Celeski during the second half for which he received a yellow card has received no attention whatsoever. Nor has a clumsy attempt by the aforementioned Leckie to put his studs into Robbie Kruse’s knee before his own incident. Why have these incidents received no attention? The answer is quite simply the players involved aren’t the current darlings of the Australian football media.

If we are going to highlight dangerous tackles in key moments of games, let’s not focus on what incident because it suits our purposes but let’s bring them all to light no matter who is involved. Because at the end of the day no one wants to see anyone player get hurt whether they be from their own team or from the opposition.

Hernandez signing points to shirt purchase

Thursday, May 14th, 2009

The worst kept secret in Melbourne Victory was finally confirmed today with the signing of Carlos Hernandez on a three year deal, thus making me one of the happiest Victory fans going around. It also means that the Victory will be getting a shirt purchase out of me for the upcoming season.

Also announced today was the signing of Thai international defender, Surat Sukha, from Chonburi FC (former home of Ney Fabiano) to bolster our weakened backline. It’s certainly a historical day for Melbourne Victory as they pay their first significant transfer fee and sign the A-League’s first player from South East Asia. Bring on the new season I say.